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Poster: Max Chorak Date: Jun 16, 2006 11:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Sorry for bringing this possibly taboo topic up but..

What is the legality of these grateful dead mp3s? I don't completely understand the whole thing.... GDM or whatever issued that statement saying it was...but is the artist (or their reps i guess) the ultimate deciders? what about the RIAA? personally i dont care about the riaa and am not scared of their scare tactics...however I just got the internet at my house.. i haven't had it ever since i moved in with my good ol' grandparents they are scared because of associations like the riaa. so I ask you all.. is it legal to download and burn to a cd.. grateful dead mp3s?

Thanks in advance.. i appreciate the posts.

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Poster: lastcall Date: Jun 16, 2006 5:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sorry for bringing this possibly taboo topic up but..

From what I understand, there IS a prison currently under construction for the sole purpose of housing all of us, and it each cell will have high speed internet.
So you can get the shn and flac files faster!

This post was modified by lastcall on 2006-06-17 00:26:16

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Poster: AshesRising Date: Jun 16, 2006 9:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sorry for bringing this possibly taboo topic up but..

"LastCall:" -- You are correct and I am suprised nobody has mentioned before tonight. I am under house-arrest until completion of the Avalon Prison. As you can imagine, the food is lousy so I gotta drink lots of Kool-Aid from dawn to dusk to dawn again. I gotta go now 'cuz a door within the fire creaked and a girl is standing there. -- Ashes

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Poster: cosmicharlie Date: Jun 16, 2006 12:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sorry for bringing this possibly taboo topic up but..

probably not "legal" and not legal with me >(the MP3 part)lol!
I'm paranoid sometimes (if i have tooo goodastash) about torrent sites...if "They" will track me down thru my PC.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Jun 16, 2006 12:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bittorent- stay legal

I'm paranoid sometimes (if i have tooo goodastash) about torrent sites

If you are getting any pirated copies of any media, here's what Bittorrent inventor Bram Cohen said, from the New York Times, 2/12/2004:

"Using BitTorrent for illegal trading, he added, is 'patently stupid because it's not anonymous, and it can't be made anonymous because it's fundamentally antithetical to the architecture.'"

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Poster: cosmicharlie Date: Jun 16, 2006 12:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bittorent- stay legal

uuuhhh....http://bt.etree.org does not allow "pirated"
correct? That is, stuff thats commercially for sale? I've gotten some great Jerry shows there and he's not allowed here for example.
Is the Achive affiliated with bt.etree?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Jun 16, 2006 1:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bittorrent- stay legal

http://bt.etree.org does not allow "pirated"
correct?


Correct.

Is the Achive affiliated with bt.etree?

There is fan volunteer overlap, but they are 2 separate sites and projects.

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Poster: Purple Gel Date: Jun 16, 2006 2:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sorry for bringing this possibly taboo topic up but..

"No matter how paranoid you are, you're not paranoid enough" X-Files
"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you!!!!" Anon.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Jun 16, 2006 12:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sorry for bringing this possibly taboo topic up but..

These two FAQs apply to the kinds of questions you are asking:
http://www.archive.org/about/faqs.php#63
http://www.archive.org/about/faqs.php#215

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Poster: Max Chorak Date: Jun 16, 2006 1:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sorry for bringing this possibly taboo topic up but..

theres just too much bs in those FAQS. i dont want flacs and shns and other random assortments. i want a concise statement showing what is legal and what isn't.. this isn't for me its for grandparents. people often seem to beat around the bush on this question.


sorry about my pickiness.

max-

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Jun 16, 2006 1:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sorry for bringing this possibly taboo topic up but..

This concise statement from the FAQ topic is relevant whether or not the music you obtain from here is in flac, shn, or mp3 format:

"Patrons may download from the LMA with the understanding that the artists still hold their copyrights. All material is strictly noncommercial, both for access here and for any further distribution."

Each LMA artist, and the Grateful Dead collection here as well, has additional policy notes pertaining to the given band. Feel free to read the Grateful Dead policy notes at the Policy link on the collection page, above this forum you are reading.

This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2006-06-16 20:49:23

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Poster: Max Chorak Date: Jun 16, 2006 2:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sorry for bringing this possibly taboo topic up but..

ok so people who use LMA understand that the copyright stuff is still in place for the artists... doesnt the LMA only house music that artists say is ok to download? and if so why not say everything here is good until the artist says people are no longer able to download their mp3s? there is so much semantical bs involved with copyrights and mp3s and music and filesharing, it drives me nuts.

thanks for all your guys input so far.. especially Diana
-max



P.S. if its a matter of copyrights.. doesnt the artist have no control then if their music could be legally put online since its the record label who has the copy rights going on?